neopolita/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-gguf overview
Niwaki niwaki.png Qwen3.8 Flash Next 119B A5B Niwaki v2.4 3bit gguf GGUF builds of Qwen3.8 Flash Next 119B A5B Niwaki v2.4 3bit mlx https://huggingface.co/neop…
Runs locally from ~47.50 GB disk (32 GB+ VRAM class GPUs with llama.cpp / guIDE).
Repository Files & Downloads
Model Details
| Model ID | neopolita/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-gguf |
|---|---|
| Author | neopolita |
| Pipeline | text-generation |
| License | other |
| Base model | neopolita/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-mlx |
| Last modified | 2026-09-19T13:10:11.000Z |
Model README
---
license: other
license_link: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next/blob/main/LICENSE
base_model: neopolita/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-mlx
library_name: gguf
pipeline_tag: text-generation
tags:
- gguf
- llama.cpp
- moe
- pruning
- quantization
- mixture-of-experts
---
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-gguf
**GGUF builds of Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-mlx —
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next pruned to 119B total / ~5.6B active parameters, with the
program-state behaviours we test (variable tracking, two-step arithmetic,
multi-hop lookups) at the unpruned model's level — for llama.cpp on CUDA,
Vulkan, Metal and CPU. Requires the
neopolita-llama.cpp fork
(see Usage): stock llama.cpp cannot represent this model's layout yet.**
Niwaki (庭木) are Japan's garden trees, sculpted by meticulous pruning so
that every branch serves the form of the whole. This model applies that
spirit to a Mixture-of-Experts. **A paper with the full method and
measurements is coming soon.**
Project page, with the releases and their measurements side by side:
Files
| file | size | wt2 ppl (llama.cpp, 512-ctx) |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-UD-Q3K.gguf (recommended) | 51.0 GB | 7.04 ±0.05 |
| Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-UD-Q4K.gguf | 64.3 GB | 6.88 ±0.04 |
The first generation's GGUF builds under the identical protocol:
| model (UD-Q3K builds) | size | wt2 ppl |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-113B-A5B-Niwaki-3bit | 49.1 GB | 7.90 ±0.05 |
| Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-99B-A5B-Niwaki-3bit | 42.5 GB | 8.79 ±0.06 |
This build reads 11% lower perplexity than the first generation's 113B
build for 1.9 GB more (the UD-Q4K file: 6.88 against 7.70).
Protocol: llama-perplexity, WikiText-2 test, 512-token windows. These
llama.cpp numbers are not directly comparable to the MLX repo's 2048-window
benchmarks; the canonical measurements (against the reference model: task
suite, KL divergence, program-state behaviours, generation battery) live
there.
Program-state check through llama.cpp (UD-Q3K file, the suite's 300
variable-tracking items, greedy decoding through llama-server): tracking
1.00 / 0.96, tracking with distractor statements 0.93 — the MLX
artifact scores 0.98 / 0.95 / 0.93 on the same items.
Both builds are quantized structure-aware, mirroring the MLX artifact's native
allocation: the always-active backbone (attention, linear attention,
hyper-connections, shared experts) at Q6_K (Q8_0 where a row is narrower than
a 256-block), embeddings and output at Q8_0, the routed experts on a compact
carrier — gate/up projections Q3_K and down projections IQ4_NL (Q4_K and Q5_0
in the UD-Q4K file; the 640-wide down rows take a 32-block type) — and the
n-gram embedding table at Q2_K (Q3_K in UD-Q4K).
Speed (M4 Max, Metal, llama-bench, 512-token prompt / 128 generated):
UD-Q3K 557 tok/s prompt, 30 tok/s decode; UD-Q4K 561 / 31 tok/s.
Model dimensions
| | |
|---|---|
| total / active parameters | 119B / ~5.6B |
| layers / routed experts / top-k | 48 / 512 / 10 (24 layers keep all 512 experts; 24 layers keep 16 each, and their routed path contributes only when the router picks one of them) |
| expert intermediate size | 640 (unchanged) |
| context | as base model |
| modality | text only (vision tower not included; MTP draft head not included) |
Usage
git clone https://github.com/Neopolita/neopolita-llama.cpp
cd neopolita-llama.cpp
cmake -B build -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release # add -DGGML_METAL=ON / -DGGML_CUDA=ON / -DGGML_VULKAN=ON as usual
cmake --build build -j --target llama-cli llama-server llama-completion
hf download neopolita/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-gguf Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-UD-Q3K.gguf --local-dir .
./build/bin/llama-cli -m Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-UD-Q3K.gguf
# or serve:
./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-UD-Q3K.gguf
Support for this file layout landed in the fork together with this release:
if you built the fork for the first-generation files, git pull and rebuild.
Why a fork
These files use two small, general additions to llama.cpp's qwen4exp
architecture, needed to store this model at its real size:
- a layer may store a few of its routed experts under the full router
(ffn_exp_ids): 24 layers keep 16 of their 512 experts. The router still
scores all 512 and the top-10 is taken exactly as in the base model; an
expert that is not stored contributes nothing. Stock llama.cpp needs uniform
expert tensors, which would add ~28 GB of all-zero experts here;
- a packed layout for the per-layer n-gram embedding table (
ple.row_pack),
so block-256 quantization types apply to its 160-wide rows; otherwise the
table alone is 28.8 GB at 4.5 bits.
Files produced by the fork's converter load only in the fork; upstreaming is
planned.
Notes and limitations
- Quality follows the MLX artifact: the reference's task average (100.5%) and
program-state behaviours at 1.26× its perplexity under the MLX protocol.
Fluent and on-topic; numbers and niche technical facts are less reliable
than the reference.
- With thinking on, the model reasons at length; use a no-thinking chat
template setting for short-form tasks.
- Evaluated text-only on English-web-heavy data; the base model's biases are
inherited.
- Canonical benchmarks, dimensions and the MLX-native artifact:
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-119B-A5B-Niwaki-v2.4-3bit-mlx.
First generation: 113B ·
99B.
Base model by the Qwen team (see license);
pruning, recovery training and GGUF builds by the Niwaki project, 2026-09.
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