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IMPORTANT Superseded by REAP 320 multi domain https://huggingface.co/AnonimousA/Qwen3.8 Flash Next REAP 320 GGUF . Community feedback in discussion 2 https://h…

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Model Details

Model IDAnonimousA/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-REAP-256-duo-GGUF
AuthorAnonimousA
Pipelinetext-generation
Licenseother
Base modelQwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
Last modified2026-09-06T18:01:30.000Z

Model README

---

license: other

license_name: qwen-community-1.0

license_link: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next/blob/main/LICENSE

base_model: Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

base_model_relation: quantized

pipeline_tag: text-generation

library_name: gguf

tags:

- gguf

- moe

- pruning

- reap

- expert-pruning

- llama.cpp

- code

- agentic

---

> [!IMPORTANT]

> Superseded by REAP-320 multi-domain.

> Community feedback in discussion #2 was right: K=256 prunes too deep. The successor keeps 320 experts with multi-domain calibration — cleaner termination, 96.3% HumanEval (vs 89.6% here), and roughly half the general-knowledge fabrication rate. Full head-to-head (including against Unsloth UD-IQ1_M, and including where we lose) is published in that thread. This build stays up for reproducibility.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next REAP-256 "duo" — GGUF

An expert-pruned GGUF of Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next:

512 → 256 experts per layer, 83.8 → 57.7 GiB, pruned against real usage from two domains

(code and agent orchestration).

This is not an official Qwen release. It is a community derivative, unaffiliated with

Alibaba/Qwen.

The point of this model is not that it is faster. It is that it fits. See

What pruning actually buys — I measured it, and the honest

answer is more interesting than a speedup number.

---

✅ Runs on llama.cpp mainline (since 2026-08-27)

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next uses the qwen4exp architecture (hybrid Gated DeltaNet + Qwen Sparse

Attention + an n-gram embedding block). Support was merged into mainline on 2026-08-27

(ggml-org/llama.cpp#27742), so any build

from master at or after that merge loads this file — verified in production on a clean

mainline clone at commit ca3d5a3.

Releases older than 2026-08-27 will refuse the file. If yours does, update and rebuild:

git clone https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp
cd llama.cpp
cmake -B build -DGGML_CUDA=ON && cmake --build build --config Release -t llama-server

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What this is

REAP-style expert pruning: drop the experts that

carry the least routing mass, keep the rest bit-for-bit.

In this GGUF the expert index is the slowest-moving dimension (ne = [n_embd, n_ff, 512]), so

each expert is a contiguous, block-aligned span. Pruning is a binary copy — no dequantize,

no requantize. Surviving experts keep their original bits. That is why capability holds up.

| | value |

|---|---|

| Experts per layer | 512 → 256 (top-50% by activation magnitude) |

| Size | 83.8 → 57.69 GiB (2 shards: 44.86 + 12.83) |

| Base quant | Unsloth UD-Q3_K_XL |

| Routing mass retained | 89.29% (worst layer, L0: 79.6%) |

| Active params | unchanged — still top-10 experts + 1 shared |

| Vision | preserved in the weights (mmproj sold separately) |

Calibration corpus

Salience was computed with llama-imatrix expert activation counts over **two domains

combined**, not one:

  • code — 164k tokens
  • agent orchestration / tool calling — 180k tokens

Both distributions were merged before ranking, so a single model serves both roles. Measured:

splitting into two domain-specialised siblings gains only 1.9 / 3.5 points of routing mass, and

llama.cpp does not share weights between loaded models — each sibling would mmap its own copy of

the 26.8 GiB PLE table. One model wins on every practical axis.

⚠️ Two traps I hit while building this, in case you try it: subsampling a corpus makes a

domain look "specialised" when it is only smaller; and pruning domain A while scoring with

domain B's list inflates the apparent case for splitting by ~11×.

---

What pruning actually buys

Everyone reports pruning speedups by comparing the pruned model on GPU against the original on

CPU. That conflates two effects. I measured them separately — **both models with all experts on

CPU (--cpu-moe), same binary, same context**, so placement cannot help either one:

| both on CPU | pruned (256) | original (512) | ratio |

|---|---|---|---|

| decode | 22.0 tok/s | 21.5 tok/s | 1.02× — a tie |

| prefill | 353 tok/s | 223 tok/s | 1.58× |

Decode does not improve, and it was never going to. The model activates top-10 experts

whether it owns 512 or 256, so the per-token compute is identical. Pruning does not make the

math cheaper.

Prefill does improve (1.58×), and this one surprised me. In prefill you push thousands of

tokens at once and they collectively touch many distinct experts — halving the catalogue

genuinely halves the memory swept. In single-token decode you only ever touch 10.

So where does the real speedup come from?

| RTX 5090 (32 GB), --n-cpu-moe 8 | pruned |

|---|---|

| decode | 68.4 tok/s |

| prefill | 934 tok/s |

57.7 GiB fits 44 of 48 expert layers onto a 32 GB card. 83.8 GiB does not. The 2.9× decode

gain is entirely the difference between living in VRAM and living in system RAM — pruning is

what makes that possible, not what makes it fast.

If you are going to run this on CPU anyway, **this model gives you ~nothing on decode over the

original.** Download it because it fits your GPU, or because you want the faster prefill.

---

Quality

Scored with a machine-verified 6-task battery (13 points): generated code is **executed against

10 hidden cases**, numbers are compared exactly, JSON is parsed and asserted, and one task only

scores if the model refuses to hallucinate a CLI flag that does not exist. No human judging, no

LLM-as-judge.

| reasoning effort | score | notes |

|---|---|---|

| medium | 12–13 / 13 | 13/13 is the ceiling, not the average — see the honesty note |

| low | 12 / 13 | Noticeably less wall clock. Loses only the long-document aggregation task |

Sampling: temperature 1.0, top_p 0.95, top_k 20, min_p 0.0 (Qwen's official values for

thinking mode).

Honesty note (updated after repeated runs). An earlier version of this card reported

13/13 from a single run. That run was real, but it was lucky: the long-document aggregation

task is the one unstable task in the battery, and across all repeated runs it only came back

perfect a minority of the time. At low it scored 2/3 in four out of four runs; at medium it

reached 3/3 in about half of the runs and 2/3 otherwise, with occasional empty-content stalls

(see trap 3 below). Treat 12/13 as the typical score and 13/13 as the best case.

🔑 Use low for everyday work and medium when aggregating over long documents. That is

the one task where the effort lever measurably helps — just don't expect 3/3 every time.

---

Running it

llama-server -m Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-UD-Q3_K_XL-reap256-00001-of-00002.gguf \
  -ngl 99 --n-cpu-moe 8 -c 98304 -fa on --jinja \
  --parallel 2 --kv-unified \
  --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --min-p 0.0

Tune --n-cpu-moe to your VRAM: lower keeps more expert layers on the GPU. On a 32 GB card, 8

lands at ~31 GB used.

Three things that will bite you

  1. --parallel > 1 requires --kv-unified. Without it the indexer cache and the attention

cache desynchronise and qwen4exp.cpp aborts on an assert. With a unified KV pool they track

each other and multi-slot is fine.

  1. Set the reasoning effort explicitly. The chat template defaults to

reasoning_effort | default('xhigh'), so if you say nothing the model silently runs at

maximum and replies take minutes. Pass

"chat_template_kwargs": {"reasoning_effort": "low"}.

  1. Empty content happens, and max_tokens is not the whole story. Reasoning goes to

reasoning_content and the answer to content. On a tight max_tokens the model spends the

budget thinking and content comes back empty — that part is just budget. But we have also

measured runs on long-context tasks that spent 13,000+ tokens, finished with

finish_reason: stop, and still returned empty content: the model occasionally stalls

inside the reasoning block and never emits a final answer. Raising max_tokens does not

prevent that mode — detect empty content and retry.

---

Prefill note (2026-09-06)

The 26.8 GiB per-layer-embedding table is untouched by pruning and is read through mmap, one page fault

per token row; cold prompts prefill 3× slower than warm ones for that reason alone. See the

REAP-320 card

for the measurements and the fix (--lazy-mode on-direct, PR #28136).

It applies to every Qwen3.8-Flash-Next GGUF, this one included.

Limitations

  • Not tested beyond code, orchestration and general reasoning. It was pruned against those

two domains on purpose. Expect degradation on whatever the calibration corpus never saw —

poetry, translation, and niche languages are unmeasured here.

  • The pruning is uniform across layers (expert_count is a single global scalar in GGUF), so

every layer keeps K=256 even though layer 0 retains less routing mass (79.6%) than the rest.

  • Single-quant release (UD-Q3_K_XL). No smaller variants yet.
  • Battery is 6 tasks. It is a sharp instrument, not a broad one.

Credits

  • Qwen for Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, released under the

Qwen Community License 1.0.

  • Unsloth for the UD-Q3_K_XL quant this was pruned from.
  • Cerebras Research for the REAP method.
  • The llama.cpp contributors on PR #27742 who made qwen4exp run locally at all.

Licensed under the Qwen Community License 1.0, inherited from the base model. The full

license text is included in this repository.

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